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New Zealand has to be the "surprise" so far r

no doubt N.Z. has to be the surprise for curling fans with their record so far, who would of bet them to be ahead of teams like Sweden, Denmark , and tied with Norway and trailing the U.S. in present game. Something tells me that the N.Z. skip is a Canadian Mmmm wouldn't be surprised to learn that might be true? Glenn and company look like their cruising to a undefeated preliminary round... unless China throws them for a loss? don't think that will happen

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dead wrong. Not an inch of Canadian talent on this team. 2 of them are Scottish but the Becker brothers are kiwis through and through

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**From NZ website**
Peter de Boer has been curling for 30 years, most of that time in his homeland of Scotland where he played at the highest level, and also on the World Curling Tour. His impressive record includes seven appearances in the Scottish Men's Championship Finals, with a best result of second in 2004 and 2005.

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Peter de Boer has been curling for 30 years, most of that time in his homeland of Scotland where he played at the highest level,


He played on top of Ben Nevis?

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dead wrong. Not an inch of Canadian talent on this team. 2 of them are Scottish but the Becker brothers are kiwis through and through
okay that is interesting to know no Canucks , but with the two Scotts in the line up they must be doing something right to balance out that N.Z rink... too bad Heath from the U.S. is laying a pasting and have beaten them, kinds of hurts their chances for a playoff hunt,can Brewster pull off a win against Canada? we'll see...

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okay that is interesting to know no Canucks , but with the two Scotts in the line up they must be doing something right to balance out that N.Z rink... too bad Heath from the U.S. is laying a pasting and have beaten them, kinds of hurts their chances for a playoff hunt,can Brewster pull off a win against Canada? we'll see...
nope Glenn pulled off the victory to remain undefeated, this has to silence any doubters if there were any in the first place , that CANADA ROCKS # 1 IN WORLD CURLING ...

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nope Glenn pulled off the victory to remain undefeated, this has to silence any doubters if there were any in the first place , that CANADA ROCKS # 1 IN WORLD CURLING ...


Glenn and Wayne are legends in the game, with steller world championship records. With serious competition in Canada, people tend to forget how good these guys are.

I'm thinking if they run the table it is the best run in the history of the game, only losing one game in maybe 50 competitive games.

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no doubt N.Z. has to be the surprise for curling fans with their record so far, who would of bet them to be ahead of teams like Sweden, Denmark , and tied with Norway and trailing the U.S. in present game. Something tells me that the N.Z. skip is a Canadian Mmmm wouldn't be surprised to learn that might be true? Glenn and company look like their cruising to a undefeated preliminary round... unless China throws them for a loss? don't think that will happen


I actually think China's a bigger surprise. They've never been all that good in the past.

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Glenn and Wayne are legends in the game, with steller world championship records. With serious competition in Canada, people tend to forget how good these guys are.

I'm thinking if they run the table it is the best run in the history of the game, only losing one game in maybe 50 competitive games.

true enough Wayne may think he is a legend in his own mind lets not forget how he got to curl on Glenn Howard rink in the first place, thanks to vice Richard Hart packing it in. Personally I never seen Wayne curl any better than he has recently. This could be undoubtedly the best Canadian rink at the worlds ever assembled, some may give their own thoughts?

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true enough Wayne may think he is a legend in his own mind lets not forget how he got to curl on Glenn Howard rink in the first place, thanks to vice Richard Hart packing it in. Personally I never seen Wayne curl any better than he has recently. This could be undoubtedly the best Canadian rink at the worlds ever assembled, some may give their own thoughts?


You are forgetting that Wayne skipped the best team in the world in the late 1990s. He was actually better back then.

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They certainly were a nice a story, but I think their playoff hopes went down with the loss to the USA. They now have to finish up against China and Canada. The teams in front of them, especially Scotland and Noraway have easier games. Wouldn't surprise me to see both of them at 8-3. They're not dead, but they need some teams in front of them to have some losses.

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Wayne Middaugh was a MONSTER in canadian curling as a skip, but only for a brief time.

He didn't quite have the horses after that great run to compete with bigger monsters like Kevin Martin, Glenn Howard, Jeff Stoughton, Kerry Burtnyk & Koe. He was always raking in cash spiel money and knocking on the door in Ontario but when Howard & Hart joined forces, the writing was on the wall for middaugh.

He's been a virtual shot-stacking machine during this event. However, I wouldn't count my chickens quite yet. The ice in Basel has been tricky (to put it lightly) and if Glenn & Co. come down on the wrong side of the inch in the page games, particulary the sudden-death final they could be short a gold.

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Wayne Middaugh was a MONSTER in canadian curling as a skip, but only for a brief time.

He didn't quite have the horses after that great run to compete with bigger monsters like Kevin Martin, Glenn Howard, Jeff Stoughton, Kerry Burtnyk & Koe. He was always raking in cash spiel money and knocking on the door in Ontario but when Howard & Hart joined forces, the writing was on the wall for middaugh.

He's been a virtual shot-stacking machine during this event. However, I wouldn't count my chickens quite yet. The ice in Basel has been tricky (to put it lightly) and if Glenn & Co. come down on the wrong side of the inch in the page games, particulary the sudden-death final they could be short a gold.

yep ain't it the truth , haven't anyone noticed the 'frost " start to creep in the sides of sheet, they had these mickey mouse humidifiers arranged on the sides , looking pretty absurd for a curling event such as this... nobody should be contemplating a 'easy sweep " from Howard rink, be like counting ones chickens before they hatched...

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yep ain't it the truth , haven't anyone noticed the 'frost " start to creep in the sides of sheet, they had these mickey mouse humidifiers arranged on the sides , looking pretty absurd for a curling event such as this... nobody should be contemplating a 'easy sweep " from Howard rink, be like counting ones chickens before they hatched...


I'm not sure why you guys are posting the "counting ones chickens" posts; I haven't seen a single person do this on this site. However, they know how to win and are about as strong a favorite as you'll ever find in Curling. They've literally only lost one game in around fifty.

Injury or bad ice are always a concern. Assuming neither occurs, I'm not sure which teams are playing well enough to challenge. Maybe Scotland ? China as a long shot ? Sweden and Norway are just not sharp.

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New Zealand up 6-3 playing 8. They're doin' what they need to do to stay alive.

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I'm not sure why you guys are posting the "counting ones chickens" posts; I haven't seen a single person do this on this site. However, they know how to win and are about as strong a favorite as you'll ever find in Curling. They've literally only lost one game in around fifty.

Injury or bad ice are always a concern. Assuming neither occurs, I'm not sure which teams are playing well enough to challenge. Maybe Scotland ? China as a long shot ? Sweden and Norway are just not sharp.



Now that Norway has picked up their game I trust that a second encounter between the two would be much tighter. Remember that at the continental cup Thomas had Glenn beat but bad strategy allowed Glenn to get the tie

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A desperate New Zealand squad, fighting to the death for a possible tie-breaker spot are giving Howard's canucks all they can handle - in fact they're 2 up coming home, Howard has the hammer!

Game don't matter to Howard, he's clinched first place. Just a run-thru but Glenn has stated on numerous occasions that all games are important to win.

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Wow!!! Take out by Glen to score 2, 7-7 and on to an EE.k:

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Kudo's to the Kiwi's, this was a game I expected Canada to win. But give NZ full measure for the victory. They've played well, so while I'm surprised, I'm not shocked.

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Now that Norway has picked up their game I trust that a second encounter between the two would be much tighter. Remember that at the continental cup Thomas had Glenn beat but bad strategy allowed Glenn to get the tie



I don't think so. The team looked really bad earlier in the week, I highly doubt all those problems were fixed in a few days.

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I don't think so. The team looked really bad earlier in the week, I highly doubt all those problems were fixed in a few days.



I don't expect that all of the bugs have been worked out but you don't win 7 games in a row without figuring things out and playing better.

I don't know if Norway would win but, like I said I would definately expect a tougher match between the two.

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You are forgetting that Wayne skipped the best team in the world in the late 1990s. He was actually better back then.



Let me disagree with you on that a little bit. He skipped possibly the second best team, Martin IMO better, in the world in the late 90's. His one and only world championship as a skip came from that time period and only came after his team tanked in the first ever olympic qualifiers in the same year. Top teams in that year that beat Middaugh in the inaugural olympic qualifying spiel like Martin, Stoughton, Burtnyk, Werenich decided to concentrate on the olympics instead of going through their respective provincial playdowns. So Middaugh had an easier path to the brier and worlds that specific year, where the hardest teams he had to get by at the brier were the likes of Duguid and Hemmings, with all due respect to those said teams.

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Let me disagree with you on that a little bit. He skipped possibly the second best team, Martin IMO better, in the world in the late 90's. His one and only world championship as a skip came from that time period and only came after his team tanked in the first ever olympic qualifiers in the same year. Top teams in that year that beat Middaugh in the inaugural olympic qualifying spiel like Martin, Stoughton, Burtnyk, Werenich decided to concentrate on the olympics instead of going through their respective provincial playdowns. So Middaugh had an easier path to the brier and worlds that specific year, where the hardest teams he had to get by at the brier were the likes of Duguid and Hemmings, with all due respect to those said teams.



It might be instructive to list the tour money leader each year. Those are the only events where most of the top teams play each other regularily.

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